I bought the 38 because I needed extra space in case I decide to wear thermals or add knee pads. I'm 6'2, 220, muscular and wear a 34 in most jeans and some 36's but these 38's fit more than 36's in other jeans and they were a lot shorter than expected. Also, the knee pads are below the knees and look more like shin pads, so I removed them. So far not impressed with the fit and placement of the pad inserts. The final nail in the coffin: I bought a washable color and they sent me navy instead. It was a bad first impression guys.
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