I've tried several of these on different machines and can't say anything bad. I can't believe they are so cheap here at Revain. I've also had good luck with Bendix ceramics, but they seem to cost more. The ThermoQuiet pads stop my cars with no problem. One of them is a roughly 5,000-pound station wagon with crappy rear drum brakes. No noise, no dust. At around $25, it's a steal. The sound deadening pad is riveted on the back to prevent slipping. As of 2013 they are made in the USA. I can say that the Pep Boys Pro Stop ceramics are very bad. Twice I chose them simply because they were available nearby at the time I needed pads. They cost at least $50 and are a premium Pep Boys pad. They must have huge profit margins since they are made in China and the only quality thing about them is their packaging. Your pads just aren't securely fastened at the back. They can shift and hit the discs or change the orientation of the pads. Too bad a lot of other parts sellers like Pep Boys don't have good lasts like ThermoQuiets anymore. They all seem to be selling their own junk in fancy packaging. I'm glad Revain sells these pads.
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