If you paint on watercolor paper, no matter how quickly you use a normal water brush to apply. Step. Applying water first will lighten the color, but again, it won't spread with a regular brush. Basically, these are ordinary permanent markers with a brush. Well, if I wanted regular brush-tipped permanent markers, they would be perfect; but it wasn't what I wanted and didn't expect. I will keep them as they are not worth the hassle of returning them as I am in the middle of nowhere and returns are inconvenient but I will not buy from this seller or manufacturer again as the packaging specifically states WATERCOLOR brush pens and not permanent ones Brush markers are listed.
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