Just put brackets on my 10 ultra, it was easy and the bike feels like it will ride the same. I already have 12" rear shocks that lower it 1" but I've always wanted a little lower. Saw one of these on a mate's standard Electra knickers after asking him how he got down so low. I tried a 2" hole and the bike sat too upright on the stand for my liking. My shocks came loose and the bags fit the hole just fine, but I was nervous about the bike sitting too straight. I would change my stance to get around this if I felt I needed a second hole. I would also be very careful, I still had room at the top of the wing inside to clear the wiring. hmm as always