these pins work. I was concerned about their strength, but when my test runs went well, we went from beta testing to a full launch cycle. The goal is to make chain mail for my role clan. Um, Scottish Post. Upon completion, our entire clan will be immune to lightning and fireball spells, as well as many other tier 5 spells. Unfortunately, high level death spells and soul eater spells are too strong and this chain mail won't be able to stop them. We're experimenting with other rails to see if other combinations work better against these spells. At the moment my clan won 6 out of 8 fights ONLY with our light mage in mail. Once we provide my creation to the entire clan, we will NOT be stopped! Note: Make sure the cotter pins you get are marked 'nautical' as without the magical sea armor they won't stop lightning or fireball spells. We found that out the hard way. In summary, these pens are AWESOME. I would recommend them to anyone who wants to make chain mail for their RPG clan. The Lycean is the lord of the claw clan.