The few issues with these appear to be from user error, in sizing hoses, aligning and bedding in the pads. Most will be DIY'ers first time install with these Shimano's. If you never bled hyros before there will be a learning curve, so dont blame the brakes. I always bleed my new brakes, because I always trim the hoses length how I want them. I dont like a rats nest under my cockpit. Minimal hosing.I measured the front hose at 850mm Rear was 1350MM End to end. I trimmed both Fr and Rear hoses. No ferrels or brass olives included. Must buy them sized for this hose. (BH59 hose) and bleed them using Shimano Mineral Oil and a standard Shimano bleed kit (Funnel and 1 Syringe) These Shimano MT-200's specifically use the funnel method of bleeding. Easier than my Avid's (Cannondale) for sure. I recommend these. However I didnt give it much in stars for value as the price of these brakes have skyrocketed as many things have. I dont believe these should be so close in price to XT or Deore. Supply chains cause this. SO value figures into the equation. $170. (without Rotors) I paid was steep, considering they could be sourced for 40% less if you look now. No instructions were included. I dont need them. But those doing for the first time should get the manual from Shimano.com and watch many videos. This is the budget Shimano Hydro Brakeset. Going from mechaniclal to hydraulic brakes can be frustrating for first timers. I still have mechanical AVid BB7's (160mm rotors) on my old Trek. They keep up with many of my Hydro brake bikes here. If you use Compressionless cable housing on mechanical disks, they modulate well, sometimes better than hydraulic bikes. Just food for thought.
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