7 year old master BMW dealer. Bought them for my car. A bit tight on cash so I didn't buy new rotors (the old ones are slightly above spec but have a slight advantage. Doing it this way is NOT recommended). Braking ability on the flat. Just a little louder than expected. However, I am willing to bet that the noise is more than 70% better if I change rotors. Damn good product for the money. Before that I had a set of ceramics on the back that lasted 100k in hard city traffic (now remember I swapped the fronts 4 times in the same window :) )
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