Good initial bite and seems to handle track days well without fading Use of chains as they were stiff for the rotors. I also upgraded my fluid to Point 4 ATE Super Blue/Gold to ensure I can take advantage of the higher capacity trackpads from years ago - just make sure you bleed the fluid well after installing the pad/rotor. 2 colored liquids make it easy when everything changes color. Overall happy with the yellow dust of the pads, it's not bad for a pad with that much torque.