Note. Bought these for our minivan because it has very wide wheels and tires and the tires would rub whenever we put two or more adults in the back seat. the inside of the wheel arches every time we hit a bump on the highway. First, there was absolutely no way for me to install them while the springs were still on the car (2007 Honda Odyssey Touring). . Spring gaps were half the width of sumo springs. I went ahead and removed the springs (very easy, one 17mm bolt on each side of the car). After