I bought these to drill about 70 holes in poured concrete basement walls. Each of them ranged from 2 to 5 holes compared to the drill bits supplied by Tapcon. I used a Milwaukee Magnum 1/2 inch hammer. The performance was pathetic. They're practically useless. I would not recommend them at all. Very disappointed. For reference, the Tapcon bit is at hole #60 or so and is still tighter.